Thursday, November 24, 2005

The United Kingdom of Idiosyncrasies

The more I interact with the British, dare I call it, culture, the more confounding it gets. I must admit that a lot of my preconceived notions were consigned to the trash can as I embarked on a journey of discovering these quirks.

To begin with, like most outsiders, I would expect the British English to be grammatically impeccable and liberally sprinkled with queen-sized expressions and metaphors. However, I have been disappointed on more than one account. Not only is the language, written and spoken, very pedestrian in quality, but it also frequently hits appallingly abysmal lows bordering on cheap slang. No doubt, it would be incomprehensible if they spoke in archaic Shakespearean English, but we certainly don’t need graduates from Oxford to be able to differentiate between ‘now’ and ‘know’.

I had always believed that the British cherish their literary heritage more than the hair on their heads. Mythical, it seems to be, for, a young man from Cheshire playing ‘Who wants to be a millionaire’ did not know that George in Enid Blyton’s Famous Five was a girl. Probably he is potty about the Potter books! Potter-mania has swept across England like Bird flu. It certainly won’t affect me, I am a vegetarian. (Now that was my lame attempt at British humour). I had been to a particular bookstore in the city center a couple of times, mainly for the delectable coffee, and I happened to be browsing through the ‘Humour’ section. It was dejecting to find that most themes were sleazy and most authors were American. I must, however, accede that the humour in some of the talk shows more than make up for the lack of satire in writing. The radical shift in focus from books to electronic media for entertainment is a global trend, and I probably should not be attributing it to the Brits alone.

Talking of global trends, as in politics, the Americans are definitely calling the shots in every sphere of life here. Most of the music is American based. Now again, what were the US country music awards doing on prime time UK television? The US sitcoms like Joey and Friends rule the tube. British cinema neither has the global coverage of Hollywood nor the mass appeal of Bollywood. It doesn’t even have the Kung-fu of Chinese films. The fashion is largely French driven and the electronics Japanese. Such is the force of globalisation in the UK that the local vegetable market is thronging with Spanish tomatoes and Belgian capsicums. So his Royal Highness Prince Charles had to pose along with his favourite pigs in their sty to endorse the organic farmers’ products!

What astounded me the most was the complete irreverence towards tradition and religion. I suspected the Brits, like most monarchy driven cultures, would have been fiercely conservative. The British society is perhaps still orthodox by and large but they are certainly not very passionate about their religion. I am stunned that despite their Christian leaning, they don’t consider it blasphemy to convert a parish chapel into a pub! As a concession they christened it ‘The Parish’.


Anurag Mathur wrote about the inscrutable ways of the Americans, perhaps inspired by some of his own personal experiences. I most certainly find the British very peculiar, and definitely not on the high pedestal that I had elevated them to. But it would be a long way before I chronicle it in a ‘novel’ style, for, I surmise what I experienced was just the tip of a whole iceberg that can sink Britannia.

33 comments:

Prashanth said...

British humour, pshaw! That was Kirthi's humour for sure :P

Anonymous said...

Hey Kirthi!!
It is so nice to se your blog after so many days!!
Its just great that you are keeping it live!!!

Kirthi said...

SP,
I wonder if I could ask Ramani to give you a kuttu on my behalf. And puhleeeez quit commenting on others' sense of humor when yours is pretty much questionable

Anon,
Thanx. (Wonder who this is??)

Prashanth said...

I'm hurt. *sniff*

Kirthi said...

You asked for it!!
Btw what's going on between div and Vc?? I am curious as hell!!

Prashanth said...

Eh? Don't worry, Divya's a kid who likes horsing around, thats all.

Also, Ramani is an 8hrs drive away, so he's not going to be able to give me any punches however much he wishes it. Actually, one of my bridge pals is in UIUC so I really wish it were closer.

Vc said...

HELLO pattar!!! ( that was for the "you know what" )
I knew George was a girl ..and your Potter joke was ...hmm hmm..

and Kirthi how dare you give SP a kuttu.

Great to see you back,,, wonder who that anony was,.,,

Kirthi said...

SP,
Hello, How dare you call her a kid! You are the KID!!
Oh c'mon, I am sure Ramani would be delighted to help me out in this regard.

Vc,
Does hmm hmm mean so cool?

Divster said...

cough cough...(announcin my presence here)

So.. wats goin on between me and who? I dont see abhishek bachchan anywhere close.. So tat kinda rules out any other options for this 'who'

Horsing around? sp?

*deeply hurt*

Kirthi said...

Hey div girl,
Nice to have you on my blog. I was not insinuating anything. I just asked SP a harmless question.
Yes you wanna give SP a kuttu too don't you?
Ramani, give it to him!!

Divster said...

hmmm..

Artful Badger said...

[SP] consider yourself punched. if you are so desperate to be punched i can transmit my punch in real form through one of my friends at PSU :D. what say. Actually, on Divsters behalf I can get a couple of extra punches thorough as well, and maybe a good bumps. It would take me about 15 minutes of quality phone time :D.
[Divya] People who take 'cute' to be an insult are not to be believed.
[Kirthi] I think I have to disagree. The very notion that the British are 'superior' is flawed. It's just a notion that they have propagated to the Indian population as rulers. That made us look up to them and believe that they indeed were destined to rule as they are 'superior'. We end up believing the sterotype that for some reason we have cultivated in our head.
A similar thing is going on today, with the Americans. We tend to think that Americans are superior to us, mostly based on all the media images that we are bombarded with.

Kirthi said...

Ramani,
First of all, I am not swayed by the popular notion to apotheosize white skinned people be it the Americans or the Brits. What I referred to by the high pedestal was a unique identity as the nation that made English one of the most widely spoken languages. With their strange obsession for good language, I would at minimum expect it to be syntactically correct. From what I read and heard from people around me, they are supposed to have been very polished, conservative and wearing their Britishness on their sleeves. All of it was dashed to the ground!
Btw did I mention 'superior than us' anywhere?
To clarify: my initial judgement is devoid of any undercurrents of a colonial hangover.

Divster said...

Ramani.. The Savior....(bows her nose)

Prashanth said...

Hmmm.... so I'm a villain huh? You've seen my pic, tell me how scary I am ;)

Divster said...

Scary? u? dont think i can handle both in same sentence.. brr..(shiver runs down my spine)

Au contraire, monsieur prashu.. I wont make the effort to ask u how scary i am, bcaus i knw da truth. (devil gaze)

Jus caus ramani is da hero of this round, doesnt mean .. ur the villain..:) Generally comedians dont get chance to be villains..specially sum1 as c...
(scurries off)

Prashanth said...

I think I'm the one who needs saving...

Kirthi said...

Hey div did u see SP's pic from his bro's wedding? Does he look menacing or like a pavam kid who got his cheeks pulled by big aunties?

Divster said...

Cheeks? sp? err.. wher r they?;-)
menacing? (stuffs a pillow in her mouth to control the shriekin laughter)

As a matter of fact, i thought he tried his best to look bery bery smart and even.. charming :) (no pun intended) "Nalla Paiyan"

Sp, u shud cherish this moment.Me too.. caus i cant believe i said tat. But hey, if it means he will blush.. then i hav hope of getting a glimpse of those 'invisible cheeks' tat kirthi talks abt.

shub said...

superbly written! :)loved the last line, especially!

Mark said...

Nice post.

It is always best to experience the culture first hand before making misconceptions based on highly romanticised novels or American media, that always plays on various English stereotypes.

I’m sure an afternoon spent in any social security office would erase any ideas of the P.G. Wodehouse type images one might have.

Dinesh said...

I completely agree with this post. I have been thinking about the same for quite some time now. As u said, the US sitcoms rule the tube, America authors rule the bookstores etc etc.
The accent is pathetic be it cockney or geordie. Done is Dun in geordie(north England)...similarly 'u' becomes 'oo' in Bus, But, Sunday and so on.
My ideas for conversing with ppl with excellent English humour materialised only twice in seven months...once, the narrator in the Thames Cruise and the tour guide in London Fort.
A Good read!

Artful Badger said...

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The Marauder's Map said...

I think a lot of our ideas about the British and their culture have been shaped by popular books about and by them and to a lesser extent by films. And a lot of the books we have grown up reading and which have unintentionally convinced us that there is such as things as a 'British character' with typical traits such as innate honesty and uprightness, a stiff upper lip, a dry sense of humour, maniacal kindness to animals etc. And sometimes we forget, at least I do, that the time Blyton and Christie and Woodhouse wrote about no longer exists. And the Americanisation of Britain bothers me as much as it bothers you as I sometimes wonder if these traits really did exist or were just so much stereotyping?

Vc said...

Wow Kirthi you are famous !!and no not as fire breathing hmmm hmmm ...

http://www.desipundit.com/2005/11/30/united-kingdom-of-idiosyncracies/

Clap Clap ...

Kirthi said...

Wow! Thanx a ton guys. I am totally ecstatic that this post featured on desi pundit.

Shub,
Long time no see!! Thanx for dropping by.

Mark,
I agree, most of my views had been influenced by books. I guess Mr. Wodehouse's take on the aristocracy might seem a bit too out of place in today's world. And I will be shocked if today I were to come across some English Lord who is a good-for-nothing nincompoop!

Thanx Dinesh.
I did write about the weird lingo couple of posts back. Yes, the tour guides here are greatly entertaining in their animated speech.

Marauder's Map,
Oh yes! Stereotypes exist everywhere. You ask an average Brit about India and he'll either rave about the spicy food or talk about yoga, godmen and elephants when he has never experienced any of it first hand.
Stereotypes or generalisations are easier ways of identifying traits that are endemic to a culture or community. At least the outsider might know what to expect, so, nothing wrong with stereotyping per se!
However, like you said, the wave of globalisation (a politically correct way of saying Americanisation) has probably annulled the stereotypes built by the books you mentioned.
I believe that media and books are in many ways reflections of the society we live in. However, I haven't had the opportunity to read contemporary British authors yet.

Vc and Ramani,
Thank you guys for informing me. I would have never known!!

Intern said...

hey kithi,
I read your posts, and you got a beautiful way of expressing ...
But somehow I never leave a comment,
mostly because I guess we got very different views
I absolutely love the Brits
Firstly, I never expected all Brits to speak the Queen's language. Cockney, Welsh and Scottish are way too wierd; to follow ... but I guess I was quite prepared for that!!!

For me, London is a paradise, so vibrant, so pulsating with life ... even with that annoying weather!!!
London is anytime, anyday my fav city, just after Mumbai ... I'm more of a city person...but I love country-side as well... Isnt Scotland absolutely awesome??? Edinburgh is sooo very beautiful ...Scottish highlands are breathtaking!

Apart from these, the Brits have such good heath-care system; the NHS... so the poorest of poor are protected. Best part, NHS is dominated by Indian doctors!!!
Another aspect: Indian food is available .. even in the remotest corner of the Kingdom. I used to find it very heartening to see that common Brits are quite aware of Indian delicacies.
I found them so welcoming in nature, so full of life. I think drinks and pubs [public house] is a part of their culture and the place is so cold, that its quite understandable.
Another feature, i donno if you've noticed; Brits; especially in Scotland, love pets; especially dogs!!! They keep their pets so well groomed .. Collies, German Shepard, retrievers n terriers being a choisest breed!

Hollywood movies dominate the Brit scene, but I think, Brits are more into theaters/plays!!! As far as music goes; US owes a big debt to UK !!!

I used to find the British sense of humor is really great: its either too subtle - [Yes minister , Faulty towers] or gross [Mr. Bean style]

But overall.....
A wonderful place to visit!!!

Intern said...

Another aspect,
in UK, , if a person pay taxes, even foreign nationals are allowed to vote...
thats certainly not the situation in USA!!!

Divster said...

Congrats!!!! (hands over a bouquet of beautiful scented flowers)

Artful Badger said...

[Kirthi] Though I have never been to Britain, I find their accents endearing. I love their unique expressions. I had a guy from London as a room mate and he had some uniquely British expressions,
Cheers instead of Thank
And some other expressions I cannot go into :D.

What I referred to by the high pedestal was a unique identity as the nation that made English one of the most widely spoken languages.
-- I think that effect is a hangover of Britain's colonial. Britain had colonozied the United States. So, the biggest power in the world today speaks English and it works in a number of countries (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Singapore..) so it has become the world's favorite languge.
With their strange obsession for good language, I would at minimum expect it to be syntactically correct.
-- I don't think it has any correlation how good their language it is. I think the reasons are very different. France and Britain were battling over the United States. If the US had adopted Frence, I feel French would have been the world's defacto language. Most of Africa speaks French is some form. Most of South America speaks Spanish and Portugese. Asia speaks English.
From what I read and heard from people around me, they are supposed to have been very polished, conservative and wearing their Britishness on their sleeves.
- The sterotype!! People would easily belive that Indians live with Elephants walking the streets what not!
All of it was dashed to the ground!
Btw did I mention 'superior than us' anywhere?
-- No no. But, think how people want to be British. Aping the West. I would think that one would want to ape another culture only if one feels inadequate if we don't. I think it's an effect of the media and our colonial hangover.
To clarify: my initial judgement is devoid of any undercurrents of a colonial hangover.
-- No no. My grandfather had a highly romanticized impression of the British. If you take a taxi driver on the road, he would too. If they did go to Britain they would be very shocked. There must be a reason for the very expectation!!

Kirthi said...

Intern,
Yeah I agree with most of that and I did mention some of it in the pervious posts and the travel-post.
But there are some I completely disagree with: NHS is a huge liability on the nation's revenue and therefore a tax payer's pocket.
UK is far warmer than most countries lying on the same latitude mainly because of its islandic nature and the temparature conveyor belt of oceanic waves that come in from the equator. And the cold definitely does not justify their drinking habits!!! People from Siberia probably drink far less!
As for the music part, can I ask you why a teenybopper band from the UK chose to call itself 'Son of Dork' (dork being a totally US slang word) and its hit single 'Loserville' which again is so American?

Div,
Thanx girl!

Ramani,
I have absolutely lost you! (Or perhaps you've lost me!!)
As I mentioned in a couple of posts back, they do have some values and systems that are remarkable.
Like I said in that very post, some people like to go over board in embracing the new culture to the extent of blinding themselves of its grey areas.
I chose to use this post as a means to point what I personally found lacking/disappointing/inconsistent with popular notion.

Chandan said...

oh my god... this is atrocious... have you ever actually been to Britain? ... from what I see, not certainly not... it's a deplorable attempt to write a blog,especially when you have no idea what you are talking about... hint: at least read "Notes from a Small Island" by Bill Bryson for a start... and yes, he's is an american, a visitor to Britain as am I... I have been here for just about under 6 years, still green horn... but, I tell you one thing, in all the places in the world i have been... I have never felt so 'at home' as I do in England... not even in my homeland... c'est la vie!

Kirthi said...

Chandan,

It may have been a blog I wrote back in 2005 but I still stand by it as my first impression about the UK. I do not need Bill Bryson's titbits on a country I've lived in twice so far: for all I know he is an anglophile and perhaps so are you!
Growing up in a convent school in India, one begins to develop a certain impression about the country that once ruled us and to say that it did not meet my expectation was nothing but the truth. But I will concede that it's easier for Indians to assimilate into the British society than other societies including American, obviously given our history. Of course, despite the globalization or Americanisation there are certain pockets of British culture that continue to remain British, quite like the Asian cultures which have survived several years of invasions. Having said that, it is not surprising that 6 years of living in UK has made you turn up your nose against your own homeland. And I am sure you do realize that your Pommy friends will not take to that French phrase so kindly as the rest of the world.